did you used to get people in your cong that were more sensitive to the demonic influences than others.some people just used to get bad feelings about an innocious piece of music.a tears for fears song did it for one of my old friends.then there are others that sense a satanic presence around inanimate objects.. satan was everywhere and in everything.kate bush was a witch - so was the girl out of fleetwood mac.some records had secret messages that if you tilted your head and turned three times said "worship satan" .
there probably are such messages in metal music but they used to be so paranoid it reached ridiculous levels.
"don't you hear it - listen again but slow it down more" .
Years ago my father gave me a teakwood letter opener from the South Pacific. It had a carving of an abstract head on it. One of the guys I pioneered with told me it was probably demonized and was causing me to think about sex too much. We summarily burned it and threw it away. Guess what? That wasn't it.
Oh well, better safe than sorry.
i've asked a few people this, but what do the jw have to gain by luring people into their religion?
do they take your money or posessions?
i just don't understand why people would want to do that.
LovesDubs:
You have summarized it all in your post. As we used to say after a 20 minute prayer at a circuit assembly. A-FREAKIN-MEN!
why did some of us get taken in by the post from carlo?
because as absurd as the correspondence was, there was a ring of truth to it.
while it would be unlikely that anyone would be counseled to forget about their new grand baby by a co or elders, i can see some self-righteous witnesses taking the attitude that shunning their knocked up daughter and the resultant baby would be the most loving thing to do.. how sad this is.
If only the disfellowshipped could understand that they are being treated like crap because they are loved. It's like being married.
hello i'm new to the whole jw study thing, but they said it fell in 607 but due to the advice of others here i looked it up.
i found in 3 encyclopedia's online that it fell in 586. i printed them out and am going to get more.
i'm going to show the lady i study with, i'm just curious what you think will happen, and if she will try to deny it.
Tattoo:
Just look at Fred. Doesn't he look like something from a bad nightmare. His utterances are from the demons (if there are such things). Fred wants you to be as deceived as he is. Misery loves company. I don't know him, but based on first impressions of his comments I'd bet he is smarmy.
What I'm going to tell you isn't really my thing, but if you are trying to determine a Christian religion to commit to, I've always been intrigued by the notion of a personal confession of Jesus as your savior. No church, no works, no muss and no fuss. Just a scripturally supported salvation with no strings attached. There's just something freaking refreshing about it. I'm not there, but I understand those who are.
questions and answers.
should dissidence exist among dedicated jehovahs witnesses?
answer:.
Maximus:
This is an interesting excerpt from the WT article you posted: "A mature Christian. . . does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to bible understanding." Now I have seen numerous posts from defenders of the Society trying to deflect the notion that the Witnesses are a cult. One of the earmarks of a cult is "mind control".
I think it is quite one thing to advocate oneness of message, but it is quite another to advocate control of a person's opinions and ideas. The Medieval Catholic Church would have loved this excerpt. Big Brother in George Orwell's 1984 would have concurred.
i see the words "perfect and "imperfect" used a lot by the org and my jw relatives.
in regards to my jw relatives, it is used usually to explain away mistakes and just plain bad behavior.
in other words, "the org.
Perhaps I can define perfection with an example:
"Fredhall is a PERFECT dupe of the Watchtower Society"!
Does this help?
why did some of us get taken in by the post from carlo?
because as absurd as the correspondence was, there was a ring of truth to it.
while it would be unlikely that anyone would be counseled to forget about their new grand baby by a co or elders, i can see some self-righteous witnesses taking the attitude that shunning their knocked up daughter and the resultant baby would be the most loving thing to do.. how sad this is.
Why did some of us get taken in by the post from Carlo? Because as absurd as the correspondence was, there was a ring of truth to it. While it would be unlikely that anyone would be counseled to forget about their new grand baby by a CO or elders, I can see some self-righteous witnesses taking the attitude that shunning their knocked up daughter and the resultant baby would be the most loving thing to do.
How sad this is. The madness of disfellowshipping must sometimes be highlighted by absurdity.
in mormonism, usually when someone leaves the church, the members give one of two reason for that person leaving.
1. they couldn't live the standards of the church.
or 2. someone in the church had hurt their feelings.. my question is: is this the usual reason the jw's give when this happens to someone who leaves?
The WT organization is set up so that everyone has doubts in their minds as to whether they've performed enough works to gain salvation. Obviously, many find the pressure of trying to live a perfectly righteous life to be very stressful. This is compounded by the certain knowledge that enough works will likely never be performed to compensate for that unrighteousness.
Why people leave is probably as varied as the number of people who leave, but after living under the above mentioned pressures, those who leave are usually quite relieved.
really simple question for the fundys.
why is god invisible?
God is invisible because after he destroys all the men, women and children on earth, except the JW's, he doesn't want anyone to see how ashamed he is for his biggest screw up to date.
i was just wondering if the ex-jw's here now believe you have a soul, or do you still hold on to the borgs claims of man/woman not having a soul.
i for one know we do.
I am now absolutely apathetic as to whether man is a soul or has a soul. Since, aside from faith, one cannot know rationally if there is life after death, I consider the entire issue as irrelevant.
I tend to believe that we all have one shot at this thing we call life and if we squander it, then we have simply squandered it. Who cares? History should have convinced us by now that life isn't sacred, it's cheap. Every minute of every day, people die in ways horrible and peaceful.
I sometimes think that as I get older I'm acting too warm and fuzzy.
